Driscoll, Conversing with Demons … NOW ‘Invasive’ Sex Talks


Last year Mark Driscoll, frequently upbraided for conduct unbecoming a pastor even cut from a live feed by management at Bott Radio; to that burgeoning list, tack on demonized-diviner sadly displayed on YouTube “I see things“. Actively conversant with demons? Revealing intimate sexual abuse in a counseling session upon hearing of this, Driscoll says she was unaware of it occurring, he says, “I see it. It’s like a have this big TV screen right here (holds arms out). Bizarre-o! These are demonic pornographic “visions” which Driscoll thrills to share. Is Driscoll demonized, you decide.

In this video lecture, Driscoll conveys unbiblical teaching, apparently to apprentices “ghost-busting” (see Lk 16:22-26), just a few quotes from the video, “having to repeatedly command, after determining how many are possessing an individual, the demon(s) to leave.” Note the distinction of demons being subject to the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, as taught in Scripture:

But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you Lk 11:20
And as he was yet a coming, the devil threw him down, and tare him. And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and healed the child, and delivered him again to his father. And they were all amazed at the power of God. Lk 9:42-43
And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven. Lk 10:17-21
And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.Mt 17:18

Contrarily, Driscoll claims, “Sometimes we clean up everything, sometimes there’s something we’ve missed.” Reminds me of the seven sons of Sceva:

Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so. And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. Ac 19:13-17
For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. Mk 5:8-9

Lastly, Driscoll instructs, “Do not do this own your own, alright? Sometimes things don’t go well, they’re not listening, they’re not responding.” Hello! Mr. Driscoll, we born again are never alone in this life; after all, the battle is the LORD’s and demons will flee at the mention of His Name – they must.

A recent article in CP detailed below highlights Driscoll’s intense fascination with sex, which, in an earlier time, would have disqualified him for the pastorate. It appears both the Young’s and Driscoll hear the same squirrely voice.

Mark Driscoll’s ‘Real Marriage’ Draws Controversy for ‘Invasive’ Sex Talk

Mars Hill Church pastor Mark Driscoll, along with wife Grace, recently released Real Marriage: The Truth About Sex, Friendship, and Life Together, which discusses everything from date nights to tricky “can we do that?” sex questions. The book has been met with praise and criticism alike.

“In reading Real Marriage I felt that it was timely and very, very applicable because it dealt with subject matter that sometimes is not being dealt with, especially for 20-somethings,” Bob Coy, Pastor of Calvary Chapel in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., told The Christian Post in a previous interview.

Mr. Coy, I strongly object! Parents train up a child in the way he should go, for the family is the God-ordained means of rearing godly seed. A book discussing “can we do that?” is as noxious as government schools inculcating an “if it feels good do it” mentality under the deception of “safe sex.” Sadly, it is not uncommon for young people to buy into the lie that going after strange flesh is acceptable when clearly God says it is not. I am appalled at your encouragement for twenty-somethings to read a book by over-sexed Driscoll.

The book addresses issues that both Christians and pastors are often hesitant to openly discuss. The Driscoll’s talk honestly about sexuality – covering topics such as pornography, sexual abuse, and what kind of sexual activity is acceptable for married couples. Real Marriage, which also exposes some of the Driscolls’ own sins, is divided into three sections: “Marriage,” “Sex,” and “The Last Day.” It concludes with a “big homework assignment” which challenges readers to turn “the principles of the book into plans for your life and marriage,” Driscoll wrote on his blog.

However, some religious writers and scholars have blasted the work, with many criticizing Chapter 10: “Can We _____?”

As Gomer Pile would say, Surprise, surprise, surprise. Really, is anyone surprised? Not this blogger. Driscoll seems to have arrested developmentally at the level of Peter Pan (Mickey Mouse t-shirt and hoodie). Perhaps vulgarity is indicative of a limited vocabulary; unlikely, since he thrives on showboating.

According to Denny Burk, associate professor of Biblical Studies at Boyce College, the Driscolls prefaced that chapter by noting that its content would be offensive to some readers. However, “they address offended readers not by allaying their concerns but by suggesting that anyone uncomfortable with the content must be either a rube or uninterested in reaching the culture for Christ,” Burk stated. “To those with legitimate concerns, these remarks come across as dismissive at best and patronizing at worst.”

Although living in the mountains, I am quite sophisticated and called of God to exercise decorum (Pr 31). It is the Driscoll’s salacity, libidinous, and scurrilous disregard for those who seek to live holy in the LORD rather than retrograde to scurvy speech who need examine their definition of “sophistication”. Oh, to witness a repentance of Sodom and Gomorrah and a return to this nation’s Puritan roots. Nice sounding catchphrase, “reach the culture for Christ,” but the Gospel alone is capable of convicting the sinner; conversely, books written by America’s cussing pastor won’t impact the kingdom.

Burk pointed out that this section could be detrimental to a union where one partner comes from a sexually broken background and the other from a sexually innocent one.  “This chapter has the potential to wreak havoc in such marriages where one spouse will feel a whole range of taboos to be ‘permissible’ if he can convince his spouse to participate,” said Burk. “This to me seems like a recipe for marital disaster, and I do not think the Driscolls’ requirement of ‘helpfulness’ mitigates the difficulty.”

Having not read the book, I can not say with certainty that taboos referenced include abandoning the blessing God gave husband and wife to face one another during relations, unlike all animals; however, Driscoll’s Real Marriage instructing husband to “Convince his spouse to participate,” lend credence to the idea.

Burke acknowledged he was “no connoisseur of marriage manuals,” but this was one of the most “provocative treatments ever penned for and by evangelicals.” He added, “Even though I have some theological and pastoral disagreements with this book, I am grateful for some significant common ground.”

Courageous of Mr. Burke to acknowledge theological and pastoral disagreements with a book that is “one of the most provocative ever penned by evangelicals” in light of God’s view: Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled. Heb 13:4

Pastor and religion blogger Tim Challies on the other hand, believes there is a “kind of sloppiness and inconsistency to the book.” According to Challies, instead of a coherent “introduction-to-conclusion look at a subject” Real Marriage reads more like a “series of seminars.”

The outcome of authoring too many books?

“The fact that half of the book focuses on marriage and the other half on sex leads to some confusion as to the nature of the book,” he stated. “All of these things together lead to a book that is disjointed and somewhat frustrating.”

Challies also pointed out that certain acts discussed in Chapter 10 were so “invasive” that as a husband he would not want his wife reading some of the content – adding this was not “prudish, but protection.”

Further confirmation the book, particularly The “Can We ____?”, is “christian” pornography (shudder). Challies makes an excellent point, married men should heed as God has called men to treasure their wives as he does his own body. Any medium, the web, books or magazines that are graphic and explicit have no place in the life of a believer.

He also noted that Mark Driscoll’s alleged abuse of the Song of Solomon has been widely discussed, “but he continues to treat it as a graphic sex manual.” And to do so is to “utterly miss the point.”

The Holy Spirit guides us into all truth and to pervert it in such a way is more akin to whom?

According to Challies, a book on marriage needs a unique angle and the Driscoll’s chose “vulnerability and answers to the toughest questions.”

Can you imagine the inappropriate “conversation” in this book? I will not read to review this book based on the comments of Burke and Challies. Hopefully, not many marriages will be harmed by spouse discordant over not pursuing “new” ways of expressing their affection as the Driscoll’s view it best expressed.

However, “what they haven’t done is laid a solid gospel foundation for marriage; they haven’t looked at these questions in the fullest context of gospel-centeredness and the rich biblical theology of marriage,” he added. “This is near-fatal because it leads to a book that is not firmly rooted in what matters most.”

Indeed, far too many marrieds in our day do not understand that it is for life, once married to even look upon another woman to lust after her is a grave sin. Sadly, today many churches are rife with adultery, living together and premarital sex. Certainly fatal.

Amazon customer, David P. Craig (“Life Coach 4 God”) said that despite the controversial nature of Real Marriage, there was plenty of “good advice.”

“I think that there is a ton of good advice, encouragement, and – take it from a pastor that’s been married for twenty years with five kids myself,” he stated. “They make marriage as real as it gets, the ups and downs, the agonies and ecstasies, and the thrills of victory with the help of Jesus at the center of it all.”

Regardless of the criticism, Driscoll jokes, “You try and write a book on sex with your wife.” The Mars Hill Church leader pointed out that the negative feedback was just part of writing a book with this kind of content.

“I will endure as much criticism as necessary to help as many people as I can,” Driscoll stated.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/mark-driscolls-real-marriage-draws-controversy-for-invasive-sex-talk-66609/

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As to the last comments by Driscoll, again people can go to God in prayer who promises He is there whenever two or more gather in His Name. God wants our marriages to thrive! It confounds the world to watch a couple remain in love despite hardships, affairs, debt or whatever valleys they journey together. Strong marriages are a powerful witness to this world who laud Hollywood’s elite who change spouses more than we change vehicles. The enemy has sought to pervert marriage, before the flood and following, which God intended to be a means of procreation, abiding intimacy and friendship unique to those in Christ, may we not let it be so!

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